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The only thing I like more than Iced Coffee, is coffee ice cream! Yum!
Even nicer to sit in a garden with the flowers and Rainy!
Mitch
X2 Capn, hope to see you back on the road again!
Thanks for the well wishes everyone. I definitely appreciate it folks.
dobro.....the mule soon come huh?.......... :freaked: .........that don't sound like much fun. Thanks for the heads up though. Hopefully they'll dope me up real good đ .
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Thinking of Kevin for his up and coming Kidney blasting.... drink lots of water, always...
Keeping you in my healing thoughts, Kev...
The article I posted was Andy 's job well done đ I'm only the poster đ
Hoping that Nic and Pam are healing emotionally and in their hearts, keeping you in my thoughts..
Hey to Mitch... sitting in the garden but instead of HOT coffee , I'm having some ICE coffee.. it's all good.
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just a quick note to remind you all, that... even thoug I dont post here as often, well, I still LOVE YOU ALL and think of you ALL every day
hope to see some of you this august.
Congrats to the Arizona Baseball team. I was hoping for the SC Gamecocks to win it but am proud they represented well.
Tanner is a great Coach, has class.
Wishing Arizona folks all the best in spite of the damn SCOTUS ruling.
:waving: best wishes to all, & Kevin I'll be thinking of ya tomorrow bro -- kidney stones are not a picnic -- overwith soon bro
GHANDI.... đ Looks like we Gamecocks are going to have to settle for runners up again. Arizona was a better team, but we handled ourselves with class and dignity. Ray Tanner is deluxe. Sets the bar high for all coaches. GO GAMECOCKS!
Prine is off his meds again!
Hi! Sending love to y'all here...Had a great time this past week, Govt Mule and moe last Fri and Sat nites in Asbury Park, rockin hard...while down at the beach we stopped at the Surf Club and everybody there was psyched that Marshall Tucker and Dickey Betts and Great Southern are coming to Ortley Beach in Aug...a nice place with outside decks that pour right onto the beach and tiki bars outside...my beach house is only a couple miles south of the Surf Club...party on the beach after the show baby! This Wed is Carolyn's 50th birthday party and Johnny of the NRPS is surprising her with a band to entertain 100 guests at the '76 House in Tappan, and Thursday is Dickey Betts and Great Southern in Albany, NY!
Hope everyone is doing okay and love and peace, Love, Kimberly
May the Gods of Baseball pour their blessings upon my beloved South Garolina Gamecocks tonight and tomorrow night. We're in need of a few miracles in Omaha. Gotta have that Threepeat but Arizona is an awesome foe.
Great Interview Rainy!!! Thanks Andy for writting this and Thanks Dickey for telling it like it was!!! đ Give Em Hell Dickey!!!!
I hope you get to feeling better Brother Kevin!!! Peach.
very nice. we all should 'Jam for Duane'.
so far 18 inches of rain these past 4 days, with MORE on the way....
Kev,
Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy sounds like a science fiction title but it will bring you relief. Depending on the location and size of the stone, you may still have a choice of water immersion litho. It is less painful after the treatment but can be more difficult to shatter the stone. Ever been kicked by a mule? Mule soon come, brother. But, it will bring relief to what you're going through now. Good luck!!
Thanks for the morning story, Rainy! (You should move to Florida because it's been raining here for four days!)
Those are great stories. Andy did a great job, extracting some beautifully embellished tales from Dickey's memory. All that great stuff was going on right in my back yard and I was just a bit too young to fake my way into the bars. We can only hope that Dickey will write it all down someday fo us to read.
Captain, batten the hatches and break out the sandbags!
Thanks Rainygirl :waving: . Thanks to Andy and Dickey too :mowhawk: . Great reading fo' sure!!!
Hope everyone is doing ok. I've been kinda down and out with a kidney stone. Going to get it blasted on wednesday. Anybody ever had lithotripsy done on 'um before?
Thanks for posting that article rainy:wave:
I read that issue when it came out but it was nice to read it here again:cool:
Morning :sunny:
I thought this was GB worthy and a very good read ( ONCE AGAIN ) from Andy Aledort...
The GB has been quiet so enjoy this đ
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DUANE ALLMAN ©2007 Andy Aledort
BIG BROTHER [ DUANE ARTICLES
ANDY ALEDORT:
Big Brother (Dickey Betts Remembers Duane Allman)
(first published in 'Guitar World', Vol. 28 / No. 4, April 2007)
Duane Allman led the Allman Brothers Band to success with his brilliant guitar work and supremely confident attitude. On the 35th anniversary of the groupâs greatest album, At Fillmore East, Allman Brother Dickey Betts shares his memories of the late great guitarist and the album that made them famous.
âPeople always ask me what Duane was really like,â says Dickey Betts. âIt says a lot that his hero was Muhammad Ali. That kind of supreme confidence that Ali had â thatâs where Duane was coming from.â
Sitting in his beautiful home in Spanish Key, a suburb of Sarasota, Florida, Betts is in the midst of his annual winter break from touring with his band, Dickey Betts and Great Southern. On the occasion of the 35th anniversary of At Fillmore East, the most celebrated of the many essential releases by the Allman Brothers Band â along with the recent passing of what would have been Duane Allmanâs 60th birthday on November 20, 2006 â Betts has offered some of his time to share his feelings and recollections of one of rock guitarâs true icons.
âDuane was bursting with energy; he was a force to be reckoned with. His drive and focus, as well as his intense belief in himself and our band, was incredible. He knew we were going to make it. We all knew we were a good band, but no one had that supreme confidence like he did. And it was a great thing, because his confidence and enthusiasm were infectious. He helped us all believe in ourselves, too, and that was an essential key to the success of the Allman Brothers Band.â
Betts, born in West Palm Beach, began playing in rock bands in the mid Sixties while in his early teens. It was during this time, as a regular on the club circuit that included popular nightspots in Daytona Beach and Sarasota, that he first encountered Duane and his keyboard-playing brother, Gregg. In early 1969, the three, along with Berry Oakley on bass and Jai Johanny âJaimoeâ Johanson and Butch Trucks on drums, formed the Allman Brothers Band.
Duane Allman earned his stripes as one of the true legends of rock guitar via his soulful slide and standard guitar work on such Allman Brothers releases as The Allman Brothers Band, Idlewild South, At Fillmore East and Eat A Peach, as well as through his magnificent contributions to Derek and the Dominosâ Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs; itâs not commonly known, but on Layla, Duane devised the title trackâs dynamic primary riff while also contributing brilliant slide work to the songâs coda. His meteoric rise to fame ended tragically, at the age of 24, in a motorcycle accident on October 29, 1971. He was soon to be hailed as one of rockâs greatest guitarists, alongside the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, and Jimmy Page.
In the wake of Allmanâs death â which was followed soon after by the death of bassist Berry Oakley â leadership of the Allman Brothers fell to Betts, under whose stewardship the band achieved their greatest success with the release in 1973 of Brothers and Sisters, which included the Betts-penned No. 1 single âRamblinâ Manâ as well as his classic rock instrumental staple âJessicaâ.
In this candid interview, Betts gives us a personal and intimate view of the real Duane Allman and tells the inside story behind what many consider to be the greatest live rock album of all time, At Fillmore East.
Of all the rock guitar legends, Duane Allman remains the most enigmatic. In your words, what was Duane like?
Duane was a âtriple Scorpio.â In astrology, triple Scorpios are people that are on fire â just blasting straight âahead. There must be something to that, because if anybody ever acted a triple Scorpio, it was Duane.
Now that I look back after all these years, it was like he knew that he only had a certain amount of time to get things done. If you werenât involved in what he thought was the big picture, he didnât have any time for you. A log of people really didnât like him for that. Itâs not that he was aggressive; it was more a super-positive, straight-ahead, Iâve-got-work-to-do kind of thing. If you didnât get it, it was like, see you later. He always seemed like he was charging ahead.
Duane also had the respect of so many people; he was a natural leader, but if he got knocked down, youâd feel compelled to do everything you could to get him back up and going again. In fact, he and I talked a lot about that, and we decided that would be the difference in our band as compared to every other band weâd ever been in: when someone falls, instead of kicking him, or talking about him or taking advantage of him, weâd help him and pull him back up.
How did the strength of Duaneâs positive attitude impact the band?
He believed in what we were doing so much that, to him, it could not fail. The rest of us knew what we had, but the kind of confidence Duane possessed was something else entirely.
Duane didnât plan the formation of the band. It was really a joint effort, but Duane was definitely the spearhead. The comments we heard at the time were that we were too good to make it as a commercially successful band.
Following the lead of the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Cream, the Allman Brothers Band took the concept of free-form group improvisation into uncharted territory and, ultimately, set a very high musical standard. Was there a feeling among the band members that the group had developed something groundbreaking and new?
The feeling was that we had discovered the very thing that weâd all been looking for, even if we didnât really know beforehand what that was. We could all feel that something really good was happening.
Did Duane function as the bandleader?
He didnât see himself as the bandleader; he led by example. And you gained a lot of respect from Duane if you earned it, if you proved you could keep up with him. If you couldnât, youâd either end up in awe of him or you might not even like him.
He was very different from Jerry Garcia [guitarist/leader of the Grateful Dead], who was very easy going. Duane didnât have time to be easy going; there was much more urgency to his personality.
Do you remember first hearing of Duane Allman?
It was around â65, â66. I kept hearing from different people about this hot guitar player named Duane Allman over in Daytona. I started going out with a girl that had dated Gregg, and she told me about the brothers. I had a pretty good band at the time [the Jokers, name-checked famously in the Rick Derringer-penned hit âRockânâRoll, Hoochie Kooâ]. We had the biggest crowds in Sarasota.
So my girlfriend took me over to Daytona to see Duane and Greggâs band, the Allman Joys, and introduced me to them. I thought they were real good, but to tell you the truth, we didnât get along right away. I thought they were stuck-up, and they thought I was some hillbilly hayseed. [laughs]
A couple of years later, they came by a club I was playing in Winter Haven [Florida] and sat in with me. Duane came up onstage to play and I showed him the amp to plug into, which was on the dark corner of the stage. It was hard to see, so as he was plugging in, I tried to help him, saying, âThis here is the bass and treble, and hereâs the volume,â and he looked at me and said, âMan, I know how to run an amp by now, I think!â And I was just trying to be nice! So I said, âOkay, well, ***** have at it then.â So we didnât get along that time either.
Before the formation of the Allman Brothers Band, you and bassist Berry Oakley had forged a tight musical relationship from playing together in a variety of different bands.
Berry and I started with a band called the Soul Children, which later became the Blues Messengers. By 1967/â68, we moved to Jacksonville and our band had become the Second Coming, so named by a club owner because he thought Berry looked like Jesus Christ. We thought that was corny as sh!t, but the club owner offered us double what we were making in Tampa, and he had a new club with a wild psychedelic light show, which nobody had in Florida; that was âCaliforniaâ stuff. The club was called the Scene, and it was the only place in Jacksonville like that, and we were the only people in town with long hair. Weâd drive somewhere and people would throw sh!t at us!
At that time, nobody was coming to the club to see us, and the ones that did had âwhite-wallâ haircuts [buzz cuts]. So we started to play for free in the park, and got some guys to put a little makeshift stage and a generator together for us.
Was this Willow Branch Park?
Iâm not sure of the name; it was by a place called the Forest Inn, a BYOB after-hours joint on 10 acres, and weâd set up outside on Sunday afternoons. Berry would say things like, âWeâve got to get our people together,â and Iâd say, âWhat people?â [laughs] Heâd say, âTheyâre out there; they just donât have any place to congregate.â Pretty soon, the peopleâs hair started getting long, and we started to see tie-dye shirts and beads. We started to get really good crowds, a couple thousand people. Then the police decided to run us out of town.
By late â68/early â69, Duane started showing up and heâd sit in with us. That was when I really started to get to know Duane, and we hit it off great then.
Did this lead to the formation of the Allman Brothers Band?
It was around that time that Duane, Oakley, and Jaimoe decided to put a trio together, and Duaneâs manager, a guy named Phil Walden, got them a record deal. So Berry started going up to Muscle Shoals to record with Duane. Ironically, Duane was helping to bust up our band, which I knew was bound to happen. What I didnât know was what it would eventually lead to.
Their group was supposed to be a power trio, like the Jimi Hendrix Experience and Cream, but Duane had to sing, and Jaimoe doesnât play drums in that style at all. Berry brought back some demos of the stuff they were doing, and even though it was good, they werenât going to be able to stand up next to Hendrix and guys like that.
Were these the tracks âHappily Married Man,â âGoing Down Slow,â and âDown Along the Cove,â which were, at the time, supposed to go on Duaneâs solo album? [The tracks were eventually released on Duane Allman: An Anthology Vol. I and II.]
Yeah, and they recorded some Chuck Berry stuff, like âMaybelleneâ and âNo Money Down,â too. Duane could sing, but he wasnât a âsinger,â and the stuff didnât have the power trio kind of sound. It wasnât making it. So it was around that time that Berry and Thom Doucette, who played harmonica with them, started talking to Duane about getting me into the band. They said, âYou and Betts together â this is too interesting to let it slide by. ***** this trio! Letâs get Betts and also get your damn brother Gregg in here!â
At that point, Gregg was out in L.A. and they were mad at each other. It was just a brotherly thing; they fought all of the time. Duane said, âOh, he ainât coming,â but we knew Gregg was going to have to come. And as soon as I got in there, Oakley and Doucette and I started harping about getting another drummer, because we felt one drummer couldnât carry the band. Berry and I had been playing six nights a week with our band, and Duane was sitting in with us every night, plus we did the jam on Sundays as an unnamed band, which would soon be called the Allman Brothers Band.
Our drummer at the time was great, but he wasnât the kind of drummer we wanted for this new band with Duane and Jaimoe. His name was âNastyâ Lord John. [laughs] He played like Ginger Baker; he hardly ever played a straight beat. But when Butch [Trucks, drummer] came along, he had that freight train, meat-and-potatoes kind of thing that set Jaimoe up perfectly. He had the power thing we needed.
Now we had a five-piece band that really started to sound like something. And when Duane and I really started to play together all of the time, it was like [jazz violinist] Stephan Grappelli and [jazz guitarist] Django Reinhardt, because we played together and complemented each other as best we could.
When did Gregg come into the fold?
We kept nagging Duane to call Gregg, and finally he did. Gregg showed up in the beginning of â69, and when he heard the band play, he was floored. He walked in during a rehearsal, and he said, âI canât play with this band!â We were really blowing; weâd been playing those free shows for six weeks by that point.
We had songs like âDonât Want You No Moreâ completely down, just the way it is on our first album. When Gregg got with us, we added the 6/8 part to it for the organ solo, and the segued into his song, âItâs Not My Cross to Bear,â to make it like one big tune.
Once Gregg sang and played with the band, was it obvious that the ingredients were all in place, and this was something special?
We knew that what we were doing was the thing. We all had been bandleaders, we were all very experienced as musicians, and we knew what we now had.
And Duane was such a great guy for keeping things positive. He would talk about all of the things that we all had been thinking about and gave us what were, essentially, pep talks. Heâd often say, âIâm not the leader of this band, but if and when we need one, Iâm a damn good one!â And he was.
An essential part of the Allman Brothers story that is often neglected is an acknowledgement of Berry Oakleyâs many musical contributions to the band.
Absolutely. I bring up the importance of Berry Oakley in every interview, but it doesnât always get printed. For one thing, Berry was the social dynamics guy: he wanted our band to relate to the people honestly. He was always making sure that the merchandise was worth what they were charging, and he was always going in and arguing about not letting the ticket prices get too high, so that our people could still afford to come see us.
And he also played a big role in shaping the bandâs arrangements.
Oh yeah. âWhipping Postâ was a ballad when Gregg brought it to us; it was a real melancholy, slow minor blues, along the lines of âDreams.â Oakley came up with the heavy bass line that starts off the track, along with the 6/8-to-5/8 shifting time signature. When he played that riff for us, everyone went, âYeah! Thatâs it!â In fact, Oakley called a halt to the rehearsal and said, âWait a minute; let me work on this song tonight and letâs get back to it tomorrow.â By the next day, he had that intro worked out.
Oakley morphed a lot of those songs into something different than the way they had started. And the arrangement on âHoochie Coochie Manâ [from Idlewild South] was all me and Oakley.
Is that âHoochie Coochie Manâ arrangement a good example of the way youâd been playing in Second Coming?
Yes, it was. That was the way we played together, with all of the constantly evolving unison licks.
What were the things that Duane brought to the table, arrangement â or composition-wise?
Duane and Gregg had a real âpuristâ blues thing together, but Oakley and I in our band would take a standard blues and do what we did with âHoochie Coochie Manâ to it. We were really trying to push the envelope all of the time, and we didnât care about a purist blues attitude. We loved the blues, but we wanted to play in a rock style, like what Cream and Hendrix were doing.
Duane was smart enough to see what ingredients were missing from both bands. We knew that we didnât have enough of the true, purist blues in our band, and he didnât have enough of the avant-garde/psychedelic approach to the blues in his band. So he decided to try to put the two sounds together, and that was the first step in finding the sound of the Allman Brothers Band.
Both you and Duane were very strong personalities, musically and otherwise. Itâs easy to imagine that it would have been difficult for two such formidable guitar players to work together as well as you two did.
We had an immense amount of respect for each other, to the point where it was almost like, Donât push me too far! I didnât push him and he didnât push me. We talked about being jealous of each other and how dangerous it was to think that way, and that we had to fight that feeling when we were onstage. Heâd say, âWhen I listen to you play, I have to try hard to keep the jealousy thing at bay and not try to out-do you when I play my solo. But I still want to play my best!â Weâd laugh about what a thin line that was. We learned a lot from each other.
When you think about it, I was only 25 and Duane was 23, and the things we were talking about were pretty mature for guys our age. Duane was one tough, cocksure guy. He had a strong belief in himself, and he was damn good. I was damn good too; I just didnât believe in myself the way Duane did. It wasnât until a few years later that I thought, Well, I guess I am pretty good too.
In April of â69, the band moved up to Macon, Georgia, at the behest of Phil Walden who had by then become the bandâs manager and had signed the group to his new Capricorn record label. In August, the band cut the first album, and the second record, Idlewild South, was recorded between February and July 1970. Around this time, Duane talked about wanting the next record to be a live album.
We were all real happy with the first two records, and I should point out that Duane was a monster in the studio. [Duane had been a session musician at FAME studios in Muscle Shoals, Alabama, and played on numerous tracks for Atlantic Records artists, including Wilson Pickett and Aretha Franklin]. He taught me, and all of us, a lot about having the proper mind-set for working in the studio environment. He knew how to make a record, and he taught me how to get into the game.
But itâs true; we all wanted to make a live record by that point. I think it was Tommy Dowd that suggested the Fillmore East, and we said, âYeah!â The Fillmore was our Carnegie Hall, and we loved [Fillmore manager] Bill Graham so much. He never gave us one grain of bullsh!t, and heâd raise hell with other bands over all kinds of things. On the closing night of the Fillmore East, he called us the âbest damn band in America,â and that floored us.
At Fillmore East is a magical record, one that is widely regarded as the greatest âjammingâ album ever recorded.
With many live records in those days, the joke was, âthe only live thing on the record is the audience,â because just about every band would go into the studio afterward and fix the tracks. On At Fillmore East, nothing was changed; the only studio work that was done was that we edited down the length of one or two tracks, and that was it. Also, the first night we had some horn players come and sit in with us, and we ultimately cut them out, too. So, there was some technical stuff done, some solos cut down in length, but there is not one single overdub.
The opposite end of the spectrum is âYou Donât Love Me,â which goes on for nearly 20 minutes.
Yeah, we let that one go! [laughs] Itâs great! The thing is, I played sh!t in there that Iâd never played before in my life. Duane played his solo bit forever, so I thought, Well, I guess Iâm supposed to come up with something, too!
Another groundbreaking byproduct of the popularity of At Fillmore East was that FM radio began to play album tracks like âWhipping Post,â which was the length of an entire album side.
In those days, FM radio was an âundergroundâ thing, where the DJs would tell you who the players were and give you some background on the music. They didnât have to follow a strict format the way AM did, so it was pretty open. Thereâs nothing like that now, but we came along at a time when we could get our stuff, even our live stuff, played on the radio, and that was how a great many people found out about us and became fans.
What are your feelings about At Fillmore East today?
I think itâs one of the greatest musical projects thatâs ever been done in any genre. Itâs absolutely honest; an honest representation of our band and an honest representation of the times.
Why do you think itâs important for people to listen to Duane Allman today?
Simply because he was one of the best there ever was. When you listen to Duane, you are hearing a truly gifted individual giving his all to the music, and there is nothing better than that.
Duane played music the same way that he rode his motorcycle and drove his car. He was a daredevil, just triple-Scorpio, Godâs-on-my-side wide open. That was part of the romance. And I loved Duane. I have nothing but admiration for him.
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